Fuel Your Legacy

Episode 189: Kip Brook, Bringing value and purpose to life.

Episode Summary

Kip Brooks is a certified Trainer and Master Practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming and holds certificates in Leadership Development, Neuroscience, Root Cause Release, and Hypnosis. He is a best selling author, certified international Speaker, and an Empowerment and Breakthrough Coach and co-founder of Brooks Empowerment Academy along with his wife Marina Brooks. Kip has been featured on Entrepreneurs on Fire and was involved in the movie rendition of Think and Grow Rich, the Legacy. Out of 10,000 possible picks, he was chosen as part of a team of 250 coaches brought in by the President of Paraguay to teach transformational and heartfelt leadership to many leaders throughout the nation in a movement called Transformation Paraguay. Things weren't always so great for him though. He had his first thoughts of suicide at eight-years-old. He began drinking regularly and taking prescription antidepressants at age 15. After over a decade of mental and emotional anguish and various drug use and multiple suicide attempts, he finally had enough. He quit cold-turkey and went looking for a better way, refusing to believe that depression was "just who he is." As his children came into the world, they only fueled his desire for a better life, a better way. Then, after the passing of his daughter in 2010, he refused to live in vain anymore and vowed to leave the world a better place because he was here, not because he left it. He's been homeless and heartbroken but instead of being bitter, it's only made him better. At 14-years-old, staring down the barrel of a gun he made a promise that if he ever found a way out of the darkness and live in the light then he would spend his life helping others do the same and now, he's' doing just that.

Episode Notes

Welcome back to fuel your legacy show and today we have an incredible guest on I'm excited every time when I get the opportunity to invite people onto my show. And it's it goes through a selection process of who do I think is gonna be best? What messages need to be heard? And how pertinent are they especially to when I'm watching them? How pertinent are they too kind of world circumstances things like that. So I am super pumped right now to have Kip Kenobi Brooks. Kenobi part is a calling name, but he is a certified Jedi Master and trainer in neuro-linguistic programming. Now if you've never heard of NLP or neuro-linguistic programming, you are going to have your mind blown today, especially going through this sense of world income. And it's essential that we learn how to talk to ourselves, how to communicate to others to others, and then how to stay positive negativity causes a lot of

friction, a quantum physical perspective, and a hormonal perspective, a lot of not great things.

don't serve us and so learning how to control our environment and the languages that we're using are crucial, especially in this time where you've never had as much time to yourself probably since you've been alive right? Then school all these things now you're sitting at home wondering what the heck to do with yourself and your family because you've never spent that much time together. This is this is huge. So he came from nothing gained it all lost all and now he's traveled the globe helping other clients gain it all in their lives by removing the emotional mental blocks that are often put on their success. Look, guys, you, I can't stress this enough. Now you have time to work through all of these things like now is the time to do it. You're never going to get two weeks off from work again. Just cuz I don't know if you never will. But this is the time to do it. I mean, it's a gift from God, in my mind this whole circumstance. So such a blessed opportunity for us to take advantage of I'm super excited for you guys to hear from Kip Kenobi Brooke so go ahead and give us a little bit more of your background.

And help us understand why you want to build a legacy and what legacy you're building. Go ahead and start from your earliest memories and bring us on to the journey.

And thank you so much for having me. I love the show. And yeah, for me, it's so I started typical kid, you know, curious about the world.

And just trying to be happy and explore around and

make my parents proud and all that good stuff, but

wasn't in a, an environment that was nourishing to that type of mindset and was very sensitive as a kid I was very empathic and, you know, I don't have a single memory of my parents ever getting along, or ever feeling like they were even remotely happy in their life in any way, shape, or form. They hated their job. And that just blew my mind because they own their own business and they hated every minute of it.

They are happy being in a relationship. So, but neither one would walk away from the business so they wouldn't walk away from the relationship. And so that was just this. Never felt safe or comfortable at home. And by the time I was eight years old,

I was having suicidal thoughts. Luckily, I didn't know that was something that could be done. It's just,

you know, I would pray every night as I was going to sleep that just make my heart stop. Don't let me wake up tomorrow.

And but around that time, I had a younger sister was born,

connected with her right away and

I just always felt protective, not just of her just of people, I never like to see people hurting or being hurt or anything like that. And so I came up with this idea that

by the time I was 10, or 11, and started learning, there were other options and you know, as far as like,

That guy should be here. And I know there were ways to

MRI for whatever.

By the end, I connected with her so much I had this idea that if I wasn't there, then all this crap I was going through would get dumped on her and just kind of passed on. So I was like, I've got to stay here to keep her safe. At least until she's old enough to you know, and strong enough to survive on our own. And so she was for the longest time.

Baby infant sister here was a was like a guardian angel for me.

men had a really low point at age 14 and

decided that was it I just couldn't do it anymore.

And her life was pretty good. She was the youngest in the family and the only girl so she was a she was baby. She was pampered. She was looked after and love. And I was like, all right, she'll be alright. Do you know?

And I was holding a gun to my head pulling the trigger. And then something clicked. And

I just I got really angry, and I wanted, I wanted to be fixed, I wanted to feel better. And I was really upset. Not just that I felt that way. But a kid felt that way as long as I did. And also knew there were other people not happy. I see, somewhere between ages 10 and 12 I had a grandfather committed suicide so it was like

people shouldn't feel this way. And I made a promise to myself in the universe that if I ever figured out another way to be and found happiness in life and

was able to get up every day and not be miserable that I woke up.

I'm going to come back and shine that same light for the people who are in that darkness. I want to show people there's a possibility and but first I got to find it. Well, I wish I could say I woke up

The next day, and it was like Ebenezer Scrooge, yet his breakthrough was like just singing out the window and like, making it rain on the delivery boy.

But I was still, you know, a broken lost 14-year-old kid, and no other way and I was still in the same environment and I didn't understand the power of perception and mindset and all that.


so, stayed around, still trying to like, okay, at least look after my sister and all that and try to figure it out. But

I think as time went on, I was still just never getting there. And then

my dad passed away was 15 and my mom was getting some security money

for each of the kids and when she came to me, I was around 16 or 17. And he was just looking for a turn 17 or think, and I was supposed to graduate at 17

Because my birthday was right on the cusp, you know where

they let me go through so I was always the youngest kid in my class. And she came to me She's like, you know, you would graduate at 18 or 17 but if you could stay in school and repeat 12th grade I'll get another year so security money

and so I saw this like

this opportunity of all get to love and acceptance now I'm valuable now I'm already

that wasn't dreaming. And then it also planted a seed in my mind of that's all I'm worth, you know, to this. This is a mother's love is supposed to be like this just

godly presence in our life, right and constantly, I got to see planted as like, I'm absolutely worthless to this family. And, and then one day I saw the checks and it was like $632

And some change. And it's like, that's how my life's work. For a couple of years after that, like about two, two and a half years, that's about all I ever made it any job I had. I didn't realize it for a long time. But looking back, I think I would make between like six and $7 a month. And if I ever got a job, whereas making more than that, I would do something to sabotage it. And I didn't understand it until you know, later on in life when I got into psychology and you know, P and everything.

But it's really fascinating to look back on it. Wow. That's, that's what I believed I was worth. Because that's what I saw my mom got for me that was what was made her willing to ask me to intentionally fail. And now it had to be pretty painful for a mother to ask her child to fail. It shows me the Dire Straits we were in at the time, but

at that moment in time, I didn't see it that way. You know, I didn't. I wasn't aware of any of that.

And so anyway, I did repeat 12th grade

If she went to do that, honestly, I would have probably just withdrawn from school completely. I didn't see a point in going, I was still pretty suicidal was planning on committing suicide after I graduated or after

high school is down once she

when she asked me to do that, I said, Okay, the money stops at you know, June 8.

I might as well as the last value I can add to the planet.

a couple of months for that I had.

If I didn't show up to school, they would have kicked me out completely. So I had to show up at least a little bit. only needed this half a credit for the second semester of world history class. And I had this rookie teacher was his second year, brand new to our school. And we hit ignore each other the whole first part of the year. He comes to me at the beginning of the second semester, a few weeks in and

comes up home after school.

slap some papers down in front of my desk. He's like, I don't know what in the world you have going on, In your head, in your inside. at home. I don't even know you outside the classroom. We've never even spoken in here. He's like, but he starts slapping papers. He's like, no, this is not you. I won't accept this behavior from you anymore. I won't allow you to accept it from yourself. Because if you're better than this, and I was only said, and we sat there for what seemed like an eternity of silence, but it's probably about three seconds. And then he said, You You're allowed to leave whenever you want. That's all I had to say for today.

And I got up and bolted out of the room as fast as I could. I felt so uncomfortable. Because you see, I was actually an AP student. All through elementary school. I was always on the honor roll student the month a bunch of times. And then when I went into seventh grade, something shifted and I went from A's and B's to D's and F's. Actually one

One of my first report cards were like, six F and a D.

And instead of anybody seeing them, you know, wow, what happened, what's going on inside? They just started punishing me non stop and I was written off

by teachers by the school but my parents are just, you know, a screw-up. And

Coskata wrong was about the first teacher to see past that and look for something else.

It wasn't the only one there ended up being another one. But he was the first one actually grabbed me, kind of shake me up a little bit of tough love. And what he did in NLP and psychology is called a pattern interrupt, you know, no one had actually done that. Everybody just

shows up, suck it up, you know, pull it together, study harder, you know, whatever. I wasn't studying, I wasn't doing anything. I didn't see a point and no one ever got down to that. Some

So the day con came did I plan to in my life, it came and it went. And it was a couple of years before I realized

I wasn't supposed to be here past now. I say, wait a minute. And I started looking back trying to figure out like what happened because it's like I would literally for a couple of years, I thought about that day, every single day. And candidate now, I was just so miserable. That was the only thing getting me through it was that I wasn't getting beyond that point.

Or, you know, it wasn't going to pass that point as like there's an end to all this. And

finally, around my mid-20s, I had actually started turning things around and had been at a job for a while and was doing good. And I was making more than that six $700 a month. And I was starting to get it together.

Yeah, life was pretty decent was better than I'd ever thought it would be for me.

Anyway, and it kept getting a little bit better, a little bit better, I still run into some roadblocks would still like sabotage here and there and mess things up.

And wouldn't know why. But like, I would get four steps up, you know, fall two or three back, but then I would get five more, but you know, it was just back and forth. So it was this gradual improvement with some setbacks along the way.

And finally, you know, as much as I found I was going to be a parent, I went to work on myself. I was doing pretty good by the end, you know, mentally and emotionally, and doing okay at work.

And something triggered me when I was going to be a parent, and it was just,

I was like, I know even though I'm doing better than I've ever done. So I know there's some skeletons in my closet, some baggage and I don't want to dress my kids out of the same baggage that I've been carrying. I was like, there's some stuff I need to hear.

From childhood and I need to find out how. And I've been going to went to the therapist for a couple of years.

psychologists and psychiatrists and things and

never got anywhere really. You know, we have some new improvements here and there but it's such a long drawn-out process. It's something me skips is there's another way Yeah, they would put me on some man I was on all sorts of meds.

And it made me feel good for a little bit and they would plateau

or drop back down and there's, there's something different there's something I'm missing. It's only back into a journey of trying to discover something and that's when you know p psychology and neuroscience started to enter in my life, I started putting myself in these different spots found out about the personal development world, went to seminars, you know, went to shamanism courses. I took a soul song class, I know what it was barely what it is.

Now, when I was looking for anything of like something different than what I've been doing, and whenever I found, you know, being really started dissecting it, because when I first got introduced to it, it was I was only brought into this sales side of it. And which I found fascinating and loved used to work had some great success.

But the therapeutic side of it

was kind of just parked away in the shadows somewhere. And when I discovered that and they realize how to link the two and started understanding the barriers we carry from the past and how to release and all that's when it really like triggered inflammation really get amped up. And, and then, in 2010 I had a daughter passed away shortly after birth and her life in it that she

had a brain deformation that was there's no train before. No

You're in 100% fatal, it's just a matter of time. And that's it. And it's usually very soon


in her time, the rest of it was perfectly healthy and strong. And

in her time going through that experience,

I started learning about organ donation. And we're told she can ever be a donor because the way the laws are written there like it's, it's illegal for

a child two years old or younger to be a donor. And, well, that's really stupid. Why is it because donors are needed for that age. And it's just that just the way the walls are written. It's like it falls into this funky little area. And I can't do anything about it. So I went out to change that. And I was like, there are people all the time losing child at this age. And it makes no sense that someone like me, can't help someone like them. It's like, if I can prevent somebody from feeling this, then I feel like that's my duty and so

I went to work on that. And

one of the things they didn't tell me was it was just too taboo. And everybody was too afraid to approach that issue.

So after it was all done, now there's a protocol set in place and actually the organ procurement organization I worked with them, they do the training and they set the protocol. So there's now a protocol for and they actually discovered the technology of a new way to

a new technology bringing in organ donation with this liver cell transplant that actually keeps

many many times a high percentage, maybe even 100%. By now.

can keep people from having to get the liver transplant they can actually inject sales from a healthy liver into that and they discovered it trying to shut me up basically, be not so many doors, and confu down. And so it was in Europe, they brought it they found it and brought it to the states and got a lot of funding by

It so

so and then the world of organ donation was changed by this

you know, baby girl that who only lived minutes they said, life outside the womb for her was 99 minutes. And that completely altered everything I believed, deep down.

You buried beneath everything that altered everything I'd ever heard and believed about, about our life and value we bring. Because I realized if someone that young lives that shorter period of time could make such a huge difference in the world. I mean, globally, there have been so many lives saved and positively impacted because of her journey.

She was able to add that much value and have had much of an impact me that significant to the world. What the heck Have I been doing? And it's like, every life has value. I was like, including mine and I won't live in

Another way ever again. And that was it. It snapped me out of it to this day right now I get goosebumps cold chills every time I think about when I had that just, you know, just click

muscle like I had when I was 14 it's just so lost and dark. It's like finally all those seeds. Just say that, you know, from that moment at 14 to two and even the moments before that with my sister like understanding that life is valuable. I was seeing it my sister wasn't seeing it myself.

And then again at 14 and then with Coach Calderon planting that seed and all these different little things along the way. Finally got through my thick skull, like Lana Tupac she killer would write a poetry about you know, a rose that grew from concrete it's like that's all I had to take the rose busted through the concrete that is my thick skull and finally figured it out. And, and to this day, like when people ask me, what's your superpower? I'm it's the fact that I can see

possibility in every person, even when it can't save themselves, and they just came from I never saw it myself. So once I did, I'm like, oh man, and and I tell people all the time, I've never met a client who is more screwed up than I was. So it's like, if there was a chance for me, there's one for you, you gotta believe it. And we got to get you there. And that's it.

Has it's ever since then it's been a year towards, you know, where I'm at now and where we're moving towards

is, I love it. The whole story is incredible. Honestly, what I found about talking to multiple people is when they find their legacy, it really is to help help a version of themselves and also there's nothing like once that Penny drops once the rose burst through the concrete right, once that happens, there's never I don't feel like there's really ever any going back to it. And going back from that experience like there's it's a

this this term is probably used to flippantly but

It's a level of enlightenment about who you are and what your potential is and what your purpose is, that can't be contained anymore.

That's what I love about the whole process is it's, you're creating now healing for other people. And what I found was a lot of people who have talked to if they specifically do neuro linguistic programming, I'm gonna ask you this question because I am curious your perspective on it. There's, there's many people who I think have used neuro linguistic programming, you probably have a lot of clients who have used it in the past, in my experience, all of the practitioners that I know the people who are like, actively helping people,

they all have a story similar to yours, where they truly believe that they're more screwed up than anybody they could ever meet. Or at least they were more screwed up than anybody that could ever meet and they, because of that, they make great practitioners because

There's that empathy that there's that relatability that like look there is still hope for you and I think that belief helps it work even more for the people who maybe haven't had that experience to be a practitioner I'm just curious how many practitioners Do you know that haven't had one of these like major life like they went from suicidal to

to being an avid like Crusader for the NLP hypnosis things like that help us know so many who haven't

it's fine you're you're just dead on the money. It's the the ones I speak with who have had like these just amazing stories of transformation with clients. Like me my my favorite one is scroll and I have full permission to use her story. She's have tons of videos

testimonials from her and interviews and everything. And she's actually a student of mine right now. But Melissa, she was a she was a rape victim. And because of the rape and the way trauma and everything works, the rape left her with asthma, PTSD, phobia, and afflicted allergy. And the allergy it actually left her legally dead for more than five minutes a couple of years ago, down in social anxiety, what else is she had a ton of stuff because she was brutally raped at 13. And

we work together and like a 20 minute session, and part of it went right before work the other she's like, and she didn't tell me all that, but I could tell because I don't have to share because she was a demo I was I was at a seminar I'd been asked to come present it and

say, and whenever she asked me, you know, eyes were dark, and I could just see you know, pain can recognize pain, you know, and

we can only see and others would. We've seen ourselves a lot of times and so I could just recognize it and I

idea of what it was because this the shifter, persona, body language and everything.

So no, not not at all and keep yourself I don't need to know you don't know, it's all unconscious. Let's just get rid of it. And then, you know, she told us, she told us afterwards, but

she had told me before she's like, well, you need to know that

one of my best friends has all the same training needed, and actually maybe simpler. And so he refused to work with me. Because it was too dangerous. And I said, Well, that's his stuff. That's not your limitation. It's not mine. I was like, do you believe it can be done? And she did. She was on it. I was like, can you trust me and trust the process? Yeah. Okay. That's all it takes. And about 20 minutes session. She's done. She's no allergy, none of that. No, PTSD anymore. No phobia, and she was so ready to let it go. And that like it rocked my world. I didn't know how long it was going to take, you know, it's like but if you

takes all night I'm staying here I will not let her lead in that kind of pain that I just saw. And, and what it is I we talked about it afterwards and, and had very similar conversation with where you and I are going it was

the people and she talked to a few people who've worked with him on a lot of different things from around us but never going near like the allergy and all of that stuff.


and that was their limiting belief in what it was. And if I have a second superpower, this is it. I've always been too dumb to be afraid. I'm not afraid to go there with a client. So I've had my own darkness

and my own pain. And all of that is that yours isn't going to end and I don't mean this in a colder like being a jerk. I think so yours. Your trauma isn't going to hurt me. So why would I be afraid to go there if I can go there with you and help get you out. I'm coming in you

The firefighter coming into the burning building, everybody else is running out. And it's because is that protection thing and it's like, I don't want anyone, I can't sleep at night knowing unless somebody stay in that, you know, thinking it's anything remotely like my was it worse, that you know, the pain I experienced? Because the mental and emotional pain is far worse and physical. Absolutely.


so yeah, the people she had said that, who would might refuse to work with it or whatever. Like the ones who were friends or whatever. Yeah, they had a pretty good childhood growing up or whatever, and other other practitioners or ones I've had who've come to me I've even had people who actually mentored me, on the way up, come to me and asked my advice and opinion and asked for mentorship, mentorship from me. And even though they have years of

study and knowledge in it, but they never had the practice, they never went there. They never pushed the boundaries at the

And I would talk to them and kind of same thing like they never had the experience of it themselves of, you know, some kind of traumatic event or, you know, deep mental and emotional pain. And the ones I talked to who have had these amazing transformations for themselves or clients talk to us about, you know, well you life like growing up, you know, parents used to beat me all the time, or I grew up in an orphanage or have someone else who actually had a friend who had a great childhood, but then got into a very abusive marriage, and that just took everything they knew about the world, you know, flipped it inside out.

And that's it. That's, and

it's amazing. It's so healing to actually step into this side of things and start coaching people through that because it's like, it gives that pain a purpose, and that's why we're giving it anyway right? Pain is a huge motivator as a beautiful teacher. So we need to create

bring you some of it now, I don't ever want to see anybody experienced like, true hopelessness. That's a pain that no one needs to sink that low to

put us like pain can be beautiful. And, you know, prosperity can come from it. I don't just mean when I say prosperity, I don't just mean, you know, money and the monetization of things, to prosperity and just complete health, happiness. Well, you know, that's what true success and prosperity is. To me, it's just being happy and that you're alive. And I just been happy to take a breath, and have beautiful relationships, friends, family,

life partner, kids, if that's what you want, and also prosperity and being able to leave a legacy and make an impact in the world and love what you do have passion in your work and all of that and set true abundance. And it's like now that that pain has a purpose, and if you just follow that purpose, that's the most healing thing I've ever done is helping others

Time work with a client there's a little piece of meat it's like give them back notice

something it's cliche it can be everybody says it there has said it at some point it's in Hollywood all the time but it really is true like we help somebody else that's like a I can feel that little kid I once was like getting a hug, you know, are just getting the lollipop person getting something to bring a smile. Absolutely. So I'm gonna I just love that it's so cool. I'm gonna go over some of these things that stuck out to me about your stories on draw attention to them because this this podcast right is is partially healing for oneself, which is essential and if you've hopefully if you've got nothing else out of his story, you can start thinking I was just sitting here listening thinking man I need to go

in certain cases I need to go be the pattern interrupt in some people's lives that I see that maybe aren't doing what and not not not that I think what they're doing is not good or bad, right? It's not about that.

But I can see when somebody is

doing something intentional or out of habit. And once they get into the habitual thing that's not serving them, then it serves to have a pattern interrupt and say, Okay, why are you doing this? What's the intention behind this pattern? and help them get out of that. So

think of that. Those are the things I thought about. But let's talk about some of your, your childhood, some of the thoughts you have, because I think these are very common, and they're in every area of our life. He shared a story of his childhood and what how he dealt with things that way. But I want to address this from a business perspective, from a relationship perspective. A few different things that I'm going to highlight here. But in the beginning, he said his parents, what was the situation with his parents, they hated their business. He felt like they hated him, and they hated being tied to each other. They didn't like each other. They didn't like their business didn't like anything, but they felt powerless to get out of it. They stayed together.

Because of the business, they stayed in these bad situations because of

ultimately, financial security, and that and that plays another role later on in the story, my story and as you've listened to me on different podcasts, very similar, right, I came from a seventh of 11 kids and in a position of poverty, I mean, essentially there was there was domestic violence, there was a lot of gaslighting emotional abuse, physical abuse, and with that, it's nothing bad to say about my parents or anything like that. I love and respect my parents. They were going through their own things, chemical imbalances, it's hard to raise a family. But the point being is we came from that position. And because of that, I went to study psychology and neuroscience and neuro psychology. So we go through these similar pathways. And what was fascinating what I found in the research, once we got into sociological research is exactly what he highlighted. And that is that

People will stay in these negative environments, these negative chemical environments, these negative physical environments, emotional environment, spiritual environments, they'll stay there 90% of the time, because they don't know how to financially care for themselves or the people that depend on them outside of that situation. And so my mission is to help people understand money enough so that they don't have to make decisions based on money, but they can make decisions based on what's best for them. What I'm doing doesn't replace or it complements what Kip is doing, he's helping people more with the mentality of healing through these traumas, that's as it as important or or more important than understanding how money works. Money's just the name of the show, right? The fuel for the legacy. It's not the legacy itself, the legacy itself is the healing that kit provides the fuel is understanding how to financially make those things happen. Okay, so I want to want to add some contrast there and some clarity

One of the things that I loved is when he got his little sister, right when his little sister shows up, and so many people, I mean, I've been using this quote a lot on social media and in different avenues, but that we like, very rarely do we rise to leadership, we fall to the level of our training, that is most cases, okay. And I've had some pushback, somebody will say, oh, there's the exception. Some people do rise, right? Well, Kip is one of those people who's an exception, he's an outlier. He did rise, right? When he was thinking, Oh, man, this sucks. I want out then he sees another person come in, says no, even if I did want out, I can't leave them in this situation. So rather than backing down, right, rose to leadership rose to I need to be alive to protect and to lead and to make sure that my family's okay. And these are the things that in such terrible circumstances. I'm sure Kip wasn't necessarily thinking of what

An incredible attribute that is, for myself, I have a similar story like I literally when I get on stage, I literally use these wordings because, for me, I had an abusive mom I had. And I felt that the way to

the I was stronger, and these are all like ourselves justifications or our ourselves, building ourselves up, but I felt that I was stronger can handle a beating a little bit better, and could be a better leader than my mom. And so I did that. The unfortunate thing about my story is that rather than leading better than my mom, I became the same type of leader as my mom. So then I didn't get punished, but then I ended up not being nice to my siblings and causing harm to my siblings as a way to impact less pain than my mom was impacting But now what does that increase that incurs a sense of even betrayal from another party if there's there's a lot of psychological mess there, right?

The landscape

I know they are. Yeah, but but I did. But the things you don't understand leaders, there are some people who do step up for an occasion most back down some step up. And that's happening in every area of life. And it's not, I want to make sure that people understand you're not bad or wrong or less than, or

there's nothing demeaning about being somebody who falls or or choose to run from the fiery building rather than running into it, right?

That's not

if that's you don't feel bad, don't sell shame or whatever or feel guilty about that. People are different, they have different roles and have different purposes. And that's okay. You know, it's okay to know that you're different. And we need both people because if everybody ran in the building, we'd all die, right? So we need people who are outside taking care, the people who are outside the building, so that was huge. And then to do that, to be able to do that he had to have an

awareness of how others were right, what ultimately pulled the gun out of his mouth or wherever it was on his body. When he was he was thinking that is man. I'm finally at a point where I'm in this pain I now recognize I'm at a point where I think I could recognize other people are in the same pain. Maybe they're either doing the same type of thing in private, or they're thinking about it.

Again, he had already set up the pattern in his life to be a leader, as soon as you recognize them, where he could leave, he fell back or rose up rather to leadership and say, okay, who else could? Who needs my help? That's his reason to live now is to find those people who are hurting and to help them and that was decided at a young age, even though it didn't necessarily come to a full fruition till later, I was decided, at a young age most major decisions in your life are decided

or created the patterns between I would say six and 10 years old, most of them maybe even younger, dependent depends on who you ask.

But there's a wide range from anywhere for 15. And I like to say, well, let's go a little bit lower. But that's that's the situation there.

Okay, this part is that I think the craziest part of I would say craziest, but there's two things that I think could cause the biggest transformation for you who are listening right now.

Especially in the the world situation that we're in.

The economy is upside down. The economy's like, basically worse than the Great Depression. And I'm not I'm not trying to be a doomsday er, but it just is. That's that's the statistical evidence. We've had worse days than even before the Great Depression and through the Great Depression. Okay. So what's interesting though, is many people are going to lose their jobs from which they were paid based on what their employer thought they were worth. In kipps situation he was getting

used for whatever money his mom thought he was worth.

Okay? that his situation and your situation, or

I mean, for lack of better words, not to draw too crass of examples. They're identical, okay? You're getting paid based on what somebody else believes your worth. And as long as you're looking or hoping for times to get back to the old normal, where you're just paid what your what somebody else thinks you're worth, you're not getting it. Like I said at the beginning, this is one of the greatest opportunities God could have given us. Our world situation right now, it's time for you to identify your worth. What do you believe your worth is because when this all ends, ends, you're gonna have to go find a job again. But maybe or you're going to start your own business, whatever you're gonna do. And how are you going to say no, this is what I know I'm worth. How are you going to project into those conversations? This is what I know I'm worth and Kip can help you make that transformation because he recognized he

saw what he thought he was worth 600 $700 a month. Okay? And so many people, you decide that you're worth $40,000 a year or $70,000 a year or $30,000 a year right? And it's the saint the numbers different but the mental process is identical. I promise you from a neuro linguistic programming perspective, the language is the same. And so he can help you if you want to level up your income through this whole situation. He's your guy, he can help you do that. He did it for himself. He can help you do that. And share a little bit about that kid because I I know it's possible. I know you can do it, but share a little bit about what that process is. What does it look like?

It's funny when you were bringing that up by a

colleague, I have she um,

she's awesome. We we were, we were working with each other. We've kind of tried it out. I hate you know, you run me through SAS. I'll run you through a session or whatever. And she was focusing on career and the

Finance and she's Tell me about all the money stories that she had growing up, you know, and oh, come from a small town people in small town don't make much money