Fuel Your Legacy

Episode 194: The Lords Way To Wealth

Episode Summary

Wylene is a best selling author and breakthrough coach, specializing in guiding people to finding wealth and fulfillment while living their Life’s Purpose, She just launched her fourth book, “The Seven Gateways - Your Map to Integrity in Life and Business.” The Seven Gateways leads you to your path of purpose and highlights the obstacles to avoid on your authentic path. Wylene facilitates a daily gratitude call that is now a popular podcast. She empowers individuals by helping them align their lives with solid Christian principles and the highest Truths. Wylene Benson hired her first mindset coach after she had a stress-related heart attack, attributed to living a life devoid of purpose. That first step began her journey of discovery of her natural gifts, related to helping others see how receiving wealth and Christ-centered living fit hand in hand. To Connect with Wylene: https://wylenebenson.com/gratitude/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/122945279011774/ https://www.instagram.com/wylenebenson/ https://wylenebenson.com/product/the-seven-gateways/ The 2 Books That Wylene would Recommend are - The Holy Bible (King James Version) - Limitless - Reclaim Your Power, Unleash Your Potential, Transform Your Life

Episode Notes

Welcome back to the fuel your legacy podcast. Each week we expose the faulty foundational mindsets of the past and rebuild a newer, stronger foundation essential in creating your meaningful legacy. We've got a lot of work to do. So let's get started. As much as you like this podcast, I'm certain that you're going to love the book that I just released on Amazon, fuel your legacy, the nine pillars to build a meaningful legacy. I wrote this to share with you the experiences that I had while I was identifying my identity, how I began to create my meaningful legacy, and how you can create yours. You're gonna find this book on Kindle, Amazon and as always on my website, samknickerbocker.com

Welcome back to the fuel your legacy podcast today. Actually this is an interesting story about how we have this guest on her name's Wiley Benson. I actually heard about her First from some videographers, who are like, Hey, you should go check out my lane because we work with her. She's awesome. I think she'd be a great connection. And that was like a year and a half ago, two years ago. And it just whatever happened never happened. I don't know, I listened to her podcast because she also has a podcast, which we'll talk about.

She hired her first mindset coach after she had a stress-related heart attack. So think about that, like after your life changes and you almost die. That's when you decide it's time to make a change and she basically attributes and living a life devoted to that purpose. So she's been able to live a life of purpose because she found out that was essential. And the first step began her journey of discovery on her own natural gifts, really related to helping others see how to receive wealth and a Christ-centered living fit hand in hand and if you know me on any level then I kind of wrote that same thing about what I love doing.

So I love, love, love helping people return to Christ. And I love, love, love helping people understand how money relieves stress so they can do so. So this is gonna be a lively discussion. I'm excited. And not very many times do I get people who have like the same thought processes or at least put in words the same things I do. So we're gonna get to know each other. And you get to listen in on this. But why don't you go ahead and share your story and why you're so passionate about what you're doing start at the beginning so we can get an understanding of where what led up to the events to create who you are today.

Sir, I would love to thank you so much Samuel, and I really appreciate you sharing a little bit more about you and the background of when you got when you heard about me first, I actually didn't know that story. So that's kind of cool. And to know that we are so closely connected in our purpose and mission. I've been on a podcast before where I felt like I couldn't I have to tone myself down a little bit and maybe not talk quite so much about Christ or God or whatever. And it's just really refreshing to be in a place where I feel like I can be completely authentic and, and true to who I know I am. So thank you. Thank you for being you. And thank you for inviting me to be on the podcast today.

As you're talking, I was just kind of allowing myself to go back over my history a little bit and see where I wanted to start. You already mentioned that I had a stress-related heart attack about eight years ago, that really started me on my journey of becoming who I am today, you know, where I help people with their purpose, really understanding that I have a purpose. And that was what the stress-related heart attack was caused by living a life that wasn't living in purpose. But I feel like I really want to go back even farther. I don't usually go back, you know as far as I'm going to share with you Your audience today that about 25 years ago, I was doing Mary Kay.

I know if those of you don't know it's a direct sales company. It's been around since 1963. I remember because that was the year I was born. So it's been around forever. And I did Mary Kay for 18 years and I was a director I had, had earned a couple of cars and Mary Kay I had a really great group of women that I led. And it was right about the time of 911. I remember sitting in my house, I had my little kids, my kids are grown. Now I have little kids. And this happened. And I really was faced with this idea of is, is there really nothing more to live than just helping people look good on the outside and That that was like a turning point in my life. And I started making some changes in my meetings that I did the weekly meetings that I did me with the women. But that was back in the time when mentors and coaches and you know, life coaches and things like that weren't really a thing. And people didn't really hire people. I mean, there was like, some books that you could read and stuff. But I was just like, branching out and kind of doing this thing on my own and trying to help people get deeper into, you know, who are you what do you want to, you know, what is your legacy that you want to leave in your life? And it was like I was people would look at me like I had three heads.

They were just like, what the heck are you talking about? It was a totally different time then and totally different mindset. So I actually because I didn't have any training, I didn't really know where I was going. I kind of crashed and burned. With that, and so instead of continuing on with my Mary Kay career, which I thought I was going to be doing that for the rest of my life, I decided to leave that and I went back to corporate America and started working for other people. And, you know, I was a mom, you know, raising kids and, and then when I left Mary Kay, my kids were a little bit older. So I felt like I had the freedom to be able to do that. But the problem once I got back into working in the real world, was that I felt like I was building somebody else's legacy. I was showing up. I'm, you know, really an amazing employee, for people. And I felt like I was taking on this idea that, you know, I wanted to build a legacy by helping somebody else build their legacy. And that's in my book, the seven gateways your map to integrity in life. business, that's something that I share with you is my story of, you know, being in corporate America being in line to become the next CEO of a multi-million dollar company. And then two weeks later I got laid off. So I have put all of my heart and life into building somebody else's legacy. And then it was just cut


And that was kind of the beginning of sort of a spiral downtime in my life where I went from, you know, feeling very capable, very confident in who I am to every day and every job that I got laid off from or got fired from, I got fired from a job. All these different things started really eroding my self confidence and my self esteem and my worst, you know, just really, really feeling what I was worth. out in the marketplace. And so it was at one of those jobs that I had kind of spiraled down to. So going from being, you know, in line to the CEO of a multimillion dollar company, down to the last job that I had out in the workforce was a shipping manager. I worked pretty much by myself surrounded by boxes, I shipped snowmobile parts. That was that was where I was, when I had a heart attack. I was actually at work. When I had this heart attack. And the heart attack the doctor told me it was called broken heart syndrome. And the more that I got to, like journaling and really understanding about my journey, and myself and what I was worth and where I had kind of sunk to, I realized that it was because I was not living a life of purpose. I wasn't trying too, I didn't have a legacy of my own that I was building. And so you know, hiring that first coach after I had the heart attack, and just really diving in and finding what my purpose and mission was, and going to God every single day and asking him, what do I need to know? just teach me. And I really was divinely tutored. And the that book, the seven gateways, all came from that time where I was rebuilding myself and rediscovering who I was, and really understanding my purpose and my legacy and my mission. So I would say that that was that in a nutshell, that's kind of my journey that led up to who I am today.

And how long ago was

like, did you publish your book?

Just January I think January was when it actually was I got my first copies in hand. Had pre sold quite a few copies. But actually having the print book done, I have audio and audio also now and it's in ebook form as well. So, you know, just since January, but it was actually in creation for about three and a half years.

That's it interesting how I'm curious why why do you think it was in creation for three years? What took you three years to get published?

I knew that, you know, this path that I was on of discovering my purpose. At first, I thought that the path that I that I was being given was only for me, you know, it was just for me to help me get out of the place where I was, you know, to get to a much higher, more, you know, the best person that I could be. I thought it was just for me, but as I started looking over it, I was like, this is a blueprint. This is a way that people can take these seven go through The seven gateways, faith, abundance, charity, prosperity, obedience, humility and equity. Those are the seven gateways. And I started looking over those that list you know, and what I have learned these these quantum leaps, they were quantum leaps for me. And as I started looking over it, I realized that it wasn't just for me, it was actually a step by step plan for people to go from, you know, being stuck in a dark place where you have no idea how to get out of it. You feel like you're completely trapped within your own body, that you know, your spirit and your heart and your soul is just dying to get out and create, but because of either your limiting beliefs or the circumstances that have been created, or whatever it is that you feel like you can't get out and that's what the Seven gateways are so from me, you know, experiencing these seven gateways and then actually communicating those on paper to in a way that other people could understand them and that they could simply and effectively walk through these gateways as well. And then of course, you know, just lots of editing and great people to help me incorporate my story into it and everything to make it interesting. So it wasn't like a textbook. It was just you know, took took some time to get this all put together.

I love that there's so much gold in this I'm excited to tear it apart, and in a good way dissect it. Okay, so yeah, um, one of the things that is so important, not just for sushi recognize this from a perspective of her career. So in contrast, she was helping people look good on the outside. And by the way, my mom did kick me Mary Kay, lots of my friends who Mary Kay, it's a great company, I have nothing negative to say about it. And it is very much look pretty on the outside. Now they're one of their. And I think this is a true principle, you often feel how you look, right? So if you look in the mirror and you feel and you look, and you think that you look bad, you're gonna feel bad inside. If you look in the mirror and think, man, I'm looking good today, then that's extra confidence. So it does help like your outer shell does help, how you feel about yourself on the inside, so not to make any mistake there. However, the ability to look beyond that say, Okay, how am I really changing somebody on the inside? If they only feel good about themselves? When they have this makeup on? Am I really making a lasting impact? Am I making a change that's going to change their life and they're the next generation? Is it a legacy proof thing? And that's where I think it's crucial to understand what what exactly are you doing and when she asked yourself that question, People weren't quite into her being that position in their life. And it doesn't mean that those people who she was leading when she starts asking these questions, I guess I'm curious, I'll ask you this. Why do you think that they were not interested? Do you think it was because they, it was just so out of left field from what how they they saw you, or do you think they really weren't interested in and discovering themselves on a deeper level that way?

No, I definitely think that there was an interest. I remember in the days building up to the first meeting that I had, you know, where I actually tried to teach people. There was a lot of excitement generated It was like, I had people coming out of the woodwork people who had not attended a meeting and, you know, months were all of a sudden, like, I'm gonna be there, you know, I'm gonna come. I think there definitely was an interest. I think it was a little bit of a combination of me not being ready. You know, me not having the training. I had never had a mentor. I didn't Really no, I was like discovering it probably could have been called more like a mastermind. If I had known what a mastermind was at the time, you know, we might have been able to do something there. But, but I think it was just I was a little bit ahead of the curve. I was a little bit, you know, on the crest of the evolution of people will really, except accepting this idea that there were people who had gone through something that could actually help you get through it a little bit faster. And I'm even right now I feel like I'm on the crest of new things as we're evolving, you know, in our current time right now in history, where there's a lot of uncertainty about the future. I feel like the the new program that I just created the Lord's way to wealth is really on the crest of you know, moving forward, but the the difference this time, is I have had that mentoring. I do you know, know what What it takes to help to inspire people and bring people along with me. So yeah, I think it was probably a combination of the time and also me not being quite

ready. Yeah, it's interesting back back at that period of time, Tony Robbins was around as far as like life, if you want to throw them into life coach area, pretty much Tony Robbins like he is the godfather of life coaching. For for most people, there's a lot of business coaches, Brian Tracy Zig Ziglar them. There's lots and lots and lots and lots of business coaches, but specifically in the life coaching space, it was pretty much Tony Robbins. And from that, I mean, there might have been a few other people but no one quite on that level. And now there's tons and tons of people who are specifically helping you with

more life

practical things and not just on the business or money side of things. So that's awesome. When you went back to corporate America, this is this is interesting. I hope that people are listening. But you ended up feeling like you're building somebody else's legacy. And then it all got taken away from you. And many people they feel like and you use this word there were security there. Mmm hmm. How would you define security? Like what is security when it comes to job security or income security? Let's just label it as income security because I think that will broaden out the explanation a little bit. But how would you define income security?

I've had so many different experiences, like I've owned several businesses, I've started several businesses. I've been a consultant in a lot of different businesses. And, you know, work for myself obviously, you know, with Mary Kay and, and other things. And I used to believe that job security or income security came from being a good employee. And so when I would go to work, I would totally like take this on and If I were the owner of the business, like what would I be doing today if I was the owner of the business, and that kind of backfired on me also, and you can read about that in my book. But now, what I realized is that you can put your guts into everything that you do. But if, if you're putting your security into somebody else's hands, there may be outside circumstances well, like even right now, the way we're going, you know, the things that are happening right now, there's a lot of people who are not working through no fault of their own through no fault of their business or their boss, you know, would would would probably never have like said you're fired. But but there's, there's they're not there. So when you put your security into somebody else's hands or into some outside circumstance, then that's not true security. I feel like the only true security is when you yourself know What your natural gifts are, and how to turn that into something that other people need. That is really your own. Your only true security

could not have said it better myself. I'm going to go back and challenge on something you said, and I am sure you didn't mean it this way. But unfortunately, sometimes people they'll hear something. And as long as it confirms a prior belief of theirs, they'll accept it at face value, rather than thinking about it more deeply. And this is why I want to tear this down. Okay. The idea that they're not working through no fault of their own is absolutely contrary to the idea of they chose to put them put their their security in somebody else's hands. The fact that they chose to put security and their security in somebody else's hands means it was their choice to begin with. It is absolutely their fault. They're not working like let's not sugarcoat it. Let's not pretend that Oh, somebody else happened. I'm a victim of Coronavirus. I'm a victim of layoffs. bullcrap you're a victim of not choosing to create, and that's your own fault. Okay, that's my opinion, you're on top. Now,

I'm going to agree with you with also an added little piece is that I truly believe that our belief is what creates our outcome. So if there is the belief that I need to have somebody else to create security for me, then the outcome is going to be produced from that.

Yeah. 100%. And, and it's because of that, that I love doing this podcast. This is why I started this podcast because it's my belief that that's not true. It's my belief that the only security as you said is in identifying your identity and learning how to add value to others. That's the only security It doesn't matter what I work in money, right? I help people with money all the time. I teach people how money works. And the irony is money is nothing more than an object. And value is really what we need to have a more honest conversation about and as long as you know how to add value It doesn't matter what the money we could use currency, Let's exchange the word money for currency doesn't matter what the currency exchange is, or the monetary exchanges, it could be Spanish dollars, it could be pesos. It could be whatever it is, as that could change, and it doesn't change. Why Lane's belief in herself, it doesn't change my belief in myself, it doesn't change Riley's ability to provide value to others and receive adequate compensation in whatever form of exchange we're using for myself, right? So because we've identified our identity, we can then add value. And it doesn't matter what that monetary exchanges we're going to be taking care of, and we're going to be have security inside of ourselves and peace and comfort in and hope because we know we can add value. It's people who have given their ability and we're going to get into this here in a second to two other people that are in in pain. So when she she's in line to become a CEO guys think about that you're in line to become a CEO. Have a massive company and you get laid off. The problem is if you've built your identity around what other people think of you, I don't care if you're, let's say, You're this beautiful woman, you've got three kids and a wonderful husband. And then you find out that your wonderful husband's been seeing some other woman on the side, right? Your whole identity was built on your perfect life and how other people saw your perfect life. Not always, but a lot of women, this is the case. And so when they find out that they would have been passed over, or rejected or whatever, it destroys them from the inside out, and they crumble. When reality, their identity, who they are there was always value there and it had nothing to do with who their husband was. It has nothing to do with who their kids were, has nothing to do with that they are you as an individual have value, regardless of anything around you. And it's important to understand that to create boundaries, and ultimately create true peace, happiness, joy and security in your life. And so when you got fired, laid off Maybe go a little bit more into that. How like, I'm sure you've journaled about this at some point. What aspects of your identity Did you have tied to your ability to perform in the corporate world?

Everything was totally tied to that. I, I, I started my first business when I was 13. And I've been my identity has always been, up until that point had always been attached to the accomplishes the accomplishments that I created, personally or professionally. That was that was where my identity completely was. And that's why and I'm so glad that you shared that because so many people do attach their identity to something like how good of a mom I am or how good of a wife I am or how you know, perfect my life looks or whatever. But What happened when I got laid off? At first I was just like super confident, you know, I was like, You know what, I still got a lot of good years left in me, I'm an awesome, you know, I, I know that I can provide value somewhere else and I went out there and I started, you know, just looking for the next opportunity. The problem was that I didn't find a next opportunity that was equal to, you know, in, like professional prestige and pay and all of that, you know, of what I had. So it was like, okay, that's fine. You know, I've got this new job, there's room to move up, I know how to move up. You know, I know how to do what's necessary for people to love what love what I do and to promote me. So I still, you know, have this this great opportunity. But that was the job that I got fired from like a year later. I was supposed to go in for an employee review and was going to get a $2 raise. That's what I thought that I was going to get. And it would have brought me back up Almost to where I was, you know, in the prior position, and instead, they said, we're letting you go, we're firing you, you're fired. Here's your final check. Let me walk you to the door, grab your stuff on the way out. That was that was my experience. And from that, that was when I really started questioning my value. That was the moment when I was like, maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was. And then the next job that I got was like, $5 an hour less than what I and it was, because that's what I felt like I was worth. And, you know, even within that, that other job that I got, I started doing things that I typically would never have allowed myself to stoop to in a professional situation because I used to know how much more valuable I was I was actually cleaning the toilets. And there's nothing wrong with cleaning toilets. I clean toilets at my house, but I've never been hired to do That I always felt like I was, you know, capable of so much more. But I had allowed my own value, the value that I gave, I had allowed it to slip to that point where, where, you know, I didn't feel like I was worth any more than that.

Yeah, it's a it's such an interesting thing. I have been on this. I don't know if it's a rant or as I've been saying, I thought it for a long time, but it's been coming up more and more in my life. Specifically, I think because of the Coronavirus and people feeling victimized by life. And I just don't have a lot of patience for victims. And so I want to help you proceed. It's not like I want to get you out of my life. I want to help you move to the next level of thought. But like becoming the CEO of your own life has been like the biggest for me and it's interesting because I don't know where I learned this. I think I put better words to it which we're going to get into And second, I put better words to it more recently, but even from a young age, I had my first so the first job I remember being asked to do when I was See, I would have been like 910 years old, the neighbor lady had some some weeds that she wanted cold. And we are homeschooled. So my mom volunteered us to go over there and pull weeds and she was going to pass. So we went over there. And that the woman was nice enough, say, Okay, well, this is the job I need done. What do you think it's worth? You know, she was treating us respectful even though we're 10 year old, 11 year old kids. And so we're like, yeah, I think it's worth about five bucks an hour. Like, I'd rather set basically was this or doing homework. So to put put that in perspective, I didn't like homework, but I'd rather do homework than I do back breaking work for less than $5 an hour, right? That was that was in my mind. I knew what I was doing. And so we came home. She said, No, we came home. My mom's like, hey, why aren't you over there pulling weeds. And we're like, well, because she didn't want to pass what we thought we were worth. And she's like, Yeah, right so she marched us back over the we had to pull weeds for free. It sucked. But what I learned, based on what I'm saying is I always had this mindset of like, I'm going to determine what my work is worth. And if you like it great if you don't fine, you know, I don't need to let you define my work. And then later I was 414 years old, I was working as a brick landscaper, and same type of situation. I was managing a crew of five adults laying brick. Well, the owner of the company would get all the materials lined up and set there and then he would disappear he'd come back to do some some cutting some cuts for brick but other than that, I I ran the whole crew. I was getting paid $7 and 50 cents an hour they were getting paid 1050 and so if you think you can keep from your employees what you're paying everybody people talk like reality is people talk Don't Don't be dishonest. Don't be cutting random deals here because the reality is people talk Okay, there's no point in In beginning that type of behavior, because you can't ever keep up with it. But so I found out they're getting paid more than me. So I confronted the owner of the company about it. I was like, Look, man, I'm, I'm the crew lead, like, I'm the one telling these guys what to do. I'm 14 years old, you need to pay me at least what you're paying them. He's like, Oh, well, they're they have families, and they have all this other reason why they should get paid more than me. And I was like, Well, look, and this was like, on a Thursday, Thursday or Friday, I was like, Look, you can either pay me what you're paying them, or I'm done. You know, like, I'm not gonna keep working for you. And then he called me back later that day, and he tried to fire me and I was like, No, like, you don't get this. I quit already, unless you're paying me more. But the point is, from a young age, I've had this mindset of I'm going to determine my value. And it's so important because if you're walking into even if you are an employee, okay, there's nothing wrong with being an employee. ralina said that multiple times here as well. But even if you're an employee I would still think it's best to think of yourself as a CEO of your company, your company is you and whoever your shareholders are, you're your spouse and your children. That's your company. And it's your job to negotiate a contract that satisfactory for both parties involved the company, you're working for your employer and you and if at any point, you feel like there's a discrepancy there as in, you're being taken advantage of, it's your duty, as the CEO of your company, to either renegotiate that contract, get out of that contract and get somewhere where it's better in your your ability doesn't matter if you get paid hourly commission. Salary doesn't matter. That's not important. The important thing is, are you thinking like a business owner? Are you thinking like I'm the CEO, or are you thinking like a victim, please, I think of Oliver Twist, whenever I please, sir, can I have some more? It's like no, like, why would I give you more I'm trying to make my company profitable, prove that you're worth more and then we'll have a conversation and so Um, speak to that a little bit from from that language, how, how important was it for you to when you pulled yourself out of it, to start thinking again, I know my worth, I know my value and I'm not going to accept less.

It was everything because that's actually what caused the heart attack was the in congruence assay of my spirit, my heart knowing really what I was worth and the value that I had to bring to the table and, and living something completely out of alignment. That was really what caused the heart attack was being completely out of alignment with the job, the time that I was getting to this job. And like I say, you know, there's nothing, it's totally moral and ethical, you know, to work in a place, you know, where you're doing manual labor or shipping, you know, cleaning toilets, whatever those things that I was doing. There's nothing wrong with those things that I was doing, but it was totally out of alignment with what I was capable of. That is where that in congruency, you are not being authentic, you're not honoring yourself, you're living well below your privilege, you're going to cause something's going to give, there's going to be stress there's going to be your spirit is going to rebel. And there's going to be something my heart. I lost function of half of my heart because of that. And I know that that's what caused it.

So let's, Ah, man, we're gonna run out of time here, which I want to have answered, ask this question because I think this is for me this is this is directly connected to my mission and what I'm trying to accomplish in life. But I forget who who I first heard this from I've heard it from multiple people at this point, so I don't know who to attribute the quote to. So if you're listening, and you feel like you've said this before, you heard me say it. Great. You can take credit for it, but the idea that Well, first off, let's start with just the concept of cognitive dissonance. cognitive dissonance, I think is essential to maintain a certain level of cognitive dissonance. But ultimately, you can't maintain cognitive dissonance forever, one of two things is going to happen. So let's first talk about what cognitive dissonance is cognitive dissonance is when you believe something about yourself or about somebody else. And the results aren't showing up your unmet expectations essentially, is, is a more layman's term of cognitive dissonance. Okay, well, that is a form of cognitive dissonance, we're going to say there's a higher level thought and there's a lower level thought just to make term simple. If you start to believe higher level things, but lower level results keep happening. And you spend your time around lower level thought people than one or two things is going to happen. Either your your body doesn't like cognitive dissonance. So either you will start to lower your thought process to blend in with other people or Those people will remove themselves and you will be attracting or you will be surrounded by more people who have your same level of thought, your results, your results will increase. The problem is most people don't like cognitive dissonance because it's painful. And in Riley's case it almost killed her. Right? Where if you're, if you maintain this higher level of thought, and it takes a long time for the results to show up and to rise to that level of cognitive dissonance, then that can be depressing, can give you anxiety, okay? This is where a lot of people get into this feeling of being suicidal. And this is a real, this is a very real thing. And maybe Marlene wasn't aware that she was suicide, okay, but her body knew that it can't like when you read the scriptures again, I this is where we're getting into Christ to a house divided against itself cannot stand. You cannot serve both God this higher level thought and Ma'am, in this lower level thought it's not physically possible. It's not like you shouldn't, it's not physically possible from an energy perspective. Think of yourself like a magnet. Okay? What happens when you have two opposing magnets trying to, to put them together, they resist each other. Well as that cognitive dissonance increases, the magnetization, the magnetism of your, the energy of your body is doing the same thing and it's literally tearing you apart from inside out. Like that is from an energy perspective, electricity, which is what we're all made of atoms and quantum physically, that's what's physically happening. So then we get suicidal and we want to kill ourselves. It's not that we actually want to end the the function of our electrical being. It's that we are recognizing there's a part of our physical being that needs to exit our life. And that is those thoughts, those mindsets, those relationships that are holding us back that are causing that tension. So here's the Question when you decided to fully live in your purpose and just go for it, regardless of all the fear of what other people were saying, how much like what did that do for you physically, from a healing perspective?

Oh, 100% wholeness. The doctor actually had told me that my heart would be working at 40% of its capacity for the rest of my life. And because of my changes, you know, that I made in my mindset, because I started on this path and started asking, day by day, what is what can I do, you know, to get more in alignment, and getting these seven gateways. And ultimately, you've given me a perfect segue to actually share a little bit about the Lord's way to wealth too. But when I started doing that, I experienced a complete wholeness. Within six months, I was hiking the highest mountain peak in our in Utah County. So it is everything. It's everything. To make that commitment to be your highest self to live in the highest capacity that you can be, and to be in alignment with that, that is everything to a whole and purposeful life. And can I just kind of share a little bit about the worst way to weld? Because back in November, so it's been several months ago, I asked the question, because I was experiencing some of this cognitive dissonance, dissonance. I was living my purpose. I was serving people I was influencing I was, you know, giving value in a way that was really serving me, you know, that was serving God. And I still was struggling financially. So it was like this cognitive dissonance. It's like, what is the deal? You know, I feel like I'm doing everything right. And I'm not experiencing the financial independence that I that I feel like I'm capable of. And so I asked the question, is there a different way to wealth if you're on the Lord's errand The answer came that was on a Friday, the whole weekend long, I was just like constant download of spiritual confirmation of the answer to this question is absolutely yes, there is a different way to wealth, if you're living your purpose and if you're taking God as your partner. And that was the final piece, the seven gateways was a way for me to teach people how to get from not knowing what their purpose is, or living totally out of alignment with it to becoming, you know, living a life of purpose. The Lord's way to wealth now takes that one step further, and you can actually make money with it. And that was all came from asking that one question. And then the cognitive dissonance went away. Everything was in alignment, I, you know, was able to understand things the way that God understands them. Sure. So

let's let's try and summarize that I have my own opinions about The way God understands money, but I'm curious if you were to summarize what the Lord's right of wealth like the the summary of it, and I know there's going to be so much more depth. That's why if you guys are listening to this, you just need to go work with her to get the more depth because there's no way we can cover it on this. Well, even if we could cover on this podcast, that's not the purpose of the broadcast. So, but I'm curious like if you were to summarize what what that added step is or how he views that process? What would you say that is?

everything that we've discovered, I did actually create a mastermind for this and we've we've been creating this over the past four months. I just we just finished the last module of it yesterday. So it's it is an actual online course. Now, I just talked to my person that's putting everything together, it should be ready by Monday as an online course, and there is a Facebook group called the Lord's way to wealth that anybody can join. It's a free public group. But in this mastermind We discovered principles that are scriptural, scripturally based and scientifically based, and most of it is that we have created different meanings to the scriptures and the way, you know that God has had, the information is already here, and we have the information, but we have misinterpreted or we've changed the meanings to align up with what with our beliefs or whatever, you know, like limiting beliefs that we have within ourselves about money, or whatever to make us feel like we're okay. In the mediocrity that we live in. But when you actually read it and understand it, the lessons and everything are super clear. And I would say that as far as God's understanding of money and what he wants us to understand, we are heirs to everything that he has, that is scriptural. We are equal with Christ. As an heir to everything that he has, he has created a world where abundance is you plant one apple seed, you get a billion apples over its lifetime. There. There is such abundance that's available to us right now and especially right now during this COVID-19 you know, we feel like we're trapped. I needed spinach the other day and I was like, I don't have any spinach. Oh, I've got dandelions out in my lawn. I went out and pick some dandelions and I use the dandelions instead of spinach. And I was like, wow, God provides everything that we need. And I feel like the the main message of the Lord's way to wealth is to really receive the abundance and prosperity that God God already has promised us. That's that's really the ultimate lesson of the Lord's way to wealth. And it again is like a step by step process.